Wed 2 Dec, 2009
Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
Obama:
To address these important issues, it’s important to recall why America and our allies were compelled to fight a war in
Afghanistan in the first place. We did not ask for this fight. On September 11, 2001, 19 men hijacked four airplanes and used them to murder nearly 3,000 people. They struck at our military and economic nerve centers. They took the lives of innocent men, women, and children without regard to their faith or race or station.
Bush:
On September the 11th, 2001, we saw what a refuge for extremists on the other side of the world could bring to the streets of our own cities. For the safety of our people, America must succeed in Iraq.
Obama:
We will strengthen Pakistan’s capacity to target those groups that threaten our countries, and have made it clear that we
cannot tolerate a safe haven for terrorists whose location is known and whose intentions are clear.
Bush:
The prime minister understands this. Here is what he told his people just last week: The Baghdad security plan will not provide a safe haven for any outlaws, regardless of sectarian or political affiliation.
Obama:
Commanders in Afghanistan repeatedly asked for support to deal with the reemergence of the Taliban, but these
reinforcements did not arrive. And that’s why, shortly after taking office, I approved a longstanding request for more
troops.
Bush:
This is a strong commitment. But for it to succeed, our commanders say the Iraqis will need our help. So America will change our strategy to help the Iraqis carry out their campaign to put down sectarian violence and bring security to the people of Baghdad.
Obama:
We must deny al Qaeda a safe haven. We must reverse the Taliban’s momentum and deny it the ability to overthrow the
government. And we must strengthen the capacity of Afghanistan’s security forces and government so that they can take lead responsibility for Afghanistan’s future.
Bush:
Our troops will have a well-defined mission: to help Iraqis clear and secure neighborhoods, to help them protect the local population, and to help ensure that the Iraqi forces left behind are capable of providing the security that Baghdad needs.
Obama:
The 30,000 additional troops that I’m announcing tonight will deploy in the first part of 2010 — the fastest possible pace — so that they can target the insurgency and secure key population centers. They’ll increase our ability to train competent Afghan security forces, and to partner with them so that more Afghans can get into the fight.
Bush:
We will help the Iraqis build a larger and better-equipped Army, and we will accelerate the training of Iraqi forces, which remains the essential U.S. security mission in Iraq.
Obama:
Now, let me be clear: There has never been an option before me that called for troop deployments before 2010, so there has been no delay or denial of resources necessary for the conduct of the war during this review period. Instead, the review has allowed me to ask the hard questions, and to explore all the different options, along with my national security team, our military and civilian leadership in Afghanistan, and our key partners. And given the stakes involved, I owed the American people — and our troops — no less.
Bush:
It is clear that we need to change our strategy in Iraq. So my national security team, military commanders and diplomats conducted a comprehensive review.
We consulted members of Congress from both parties, allies abroad, and distinguished outside experts.
Obama:
We’ll continue to advise and assist Afghanistan’s security forces to ensure that they can succeed over the long haul. But it will be clear to the Afghan government — and, more importantly, to the Afghan people — that they will ultimately be responsible for their own country.
Bush:
I have made it clear to the prime minister and Iraq’s other leaders that America’s commitment is not open-ended. If the Iraqi government does not follow through on its promises, it will lose the support of the American people. And it will lose the support of the Iraqi people.
Obama:
Now, let me be clear: None of this will be easy. The struggle against violent extremism will not be finished quickly, and it extends well beyond Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Bush:
This new strategy will not yield an immediate end to suicide bombings, assassinations or IED attacks. Our enemies in Iraq will make every effort to ensure that our television screens are filled with images of death and suffering.
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OHHH says:
Except that no one has any confidence in Obama. Not even liberals.
And for good reason, Obama is a ‘community organizer’. And based on his international ‘organizing’ results, he’s a failure.
So we have an inept president on almost every front.
Our military has no confident morale in Obama, which is big trouble on the battlefield.
Our economy is the worst in history, second only to the great depression.
Our spending is the highest in history.
Our unemployment rate is the worst in history.
Our allies and enemies are realizing this administration is weak, therefore seeing America as weak.
Administration has the lowest approval rating in history.
This Administration is trying to ruin the best healthcare in the world, shove some farce global warming up our ass and make us pay for it, takeover major corporations and use our money to fund them, when they should be simply be let to bankrupt own their own dime on and on and fucking on.
Obama is the worst president controlling the worst administration we’ve ever had, bar none.
Who gives a shit about Speechwriters…
PQ8 says:
Bad times!
Phuck Politics says:
@OHHH – Our military has no confident morale in Obama, which is big trouble on the battlefield.
Source?
Our economy is the worst in history, second only to the great depression.
How is today’s economy the worst in history if it’s second to the Great Depression?
Our spending is the highest in history.
Because of the two wars Bush got us in.
Our unemployment rate is the worst in history.
No,the Great Depression’s unemployment was the worst in American history.
Our allies and enemies are realizing this administration is weak, therefore seeing America as weak.
Again, source?
Administration has the lowest approval rating in history.
No, the Bush Administration had the lowest approval rating in history with 22 percent.
This Administration is trying to ruin the best healthcare in the world
America has the 37th best health care in the world.
shove some farce global warming up our ass and make us pay for it
Obama’s already signed the cap-and-trade bill? When did that happen?
takeover major corporations and use our money to fund them
He’s just following in Bush’s footsteps.
Obama is the worst president controlling the worst administration we’ve ever had, bar none.
No he isn’t. Nixon’s Administration(Watergate), Reagan’s Administration(Iran-Contra), Bush 41′s Administration(Invasion of Panama), Clinton’Administration (Deregulation of Wall Street), and Bush 43′s Administration (Iraq and Afghanistan wars) were worse than Obama’s Administration.
PQ8 says:
“This Administration is trying to ruin the best healthcare in the world
America has the 37th best health care in the world.”
*covers ears* NO ITS NOT TRUE NO!
OHHH says:
Seems Phuck forgets that Bush had a democratic majority running the show the last couple years of his term…
But ya, go ahead and keep blaming bush, its all you libs got right now.
And a huge LAF to you for that 2000 healthcare link from WHO ‘data’ from the 90s.. Since the UK was ranked 18 on that report, guess you better go over there for your breast reduction surgery.
And you might wanna actually read the loose science report before you link it because USA is # 1 for responsiveness. And anyone who knows anything at all about health, it’s responsiveness that matters.
And did you happen to read about innovation? since the US is also #1 in bringing better technology to every healthcare system in the world.
here’s the link to the entire ‘report’:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CBIQFDAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%3Fid%3DluqgKK2euxoC%26dq%3Dthe%2BWorld%2BHealth%2BReport%2B2000%2B%25E2%2580%2593%2BHealth%2Bsystems%3A%2BImproving%2Bperformance%26printsec%3Dfrontcover%26source%3Dbl%26ots%3DsJmc6d6JR7%26sig%3DWQZPGQ-BCgAek3Vfqkkue9AvKrA%26hl%3Den%26ei%3DQMIWS9veE4ONlAf_lYnKBQ%26sa%3DX%26oi%3Dbook_result%26ct%3Dresult%26resnum%3D2%26ved%3D0CBMQ6AEwAQ&rct=j&q=the+World+Health+Report+2000+%E2%80%93+Health+systems%3A+Improving+performance&ei=QMIWS9veE4ONlAf_lYnKBQ&usg=AFQjCNFNNQLroT9c6BP_wCRJqPjz-TEckw
Go live in Canada or England and experience their heath care. I speak from experience, not from fluffy lib ideas with zero real world experience like your President Organizer!
Phuck Politics says:
@OHHH – Seems Phuck forgets that Bush had a democratic majority running the show the last couple years of his term…
Seems OHHH forgot that Republicans controlled Congress from 1994-2006.
And a huge LAF to you for that 2000 healthcare link from WHO ‘data’ from the 90s.. Since the UK was ranked 18 on that report, guess you better go over there for your breast reduction surgery.
Was that a fat joke?
Go live in Canada or England and experience their heath care.
If only I could…if only I could.
Phuck Politics says:
@PQ8 – That’s a good teabagger impression.
Adrienne says:
The only difference seems to be that one isn’t a complete retard.
PQ8 says:
“Teabaggers” makes me chuckle everytime I hear it…
OHHH says:
You libs make an art out of denial…
the same kind of art birds make on windshields.
ZIRGAR says:
OHHH, I’d never deny you the chance to wrap your Libertarian lips around my big Liberal hairy cock.
Jeff says:
How can OHHH possibly blame Obama for problems that were created by Bush? That’s like blaming Ford for the Vietnam War.
Phuck Politics says:
@Adrienne – Yeah, it is kind of nice to have a president that knows how to give a speech.
@PQ8 – I do too.
@Zirgar – You’re out of lucky buddy. Libertarians only care about sucking their own dick.
@Jeff – OHHH believes Bush did nothing wrong.
OHHH says:
Bush had problems, there’s no secret since the media called him out on them and no one is denying it, but the majority of bush’s ‘mistakes’ were also due to circumstances that had nothing to do with bush – aka housing crisis (via Clinton) and the Afghanistan (via 911).
Hell if I wanted to I could blame all of bush’s issues on others too, like cheney or congress or intelligence, etc.
See I stand by Bush’s mistakes because he was a great example of a president who took defense of the nation and troop morale first.
You libs are all about excuses, finding someone else to blame, smoke in mirrors, never standing up and saying “Yes, this is his baby and we stand by his mistakes”. And the reason is because 90% of it is complete bullshit and only a move to strengthen the liberal base. You libs are a fucking tool of the liberal agenda, you have no idea what you believe in or why, you just whine, complain, and demand more from those who do believe in something.
PQ8 says:
Those damn libs! If there were any here I’d give them a peice of my mind.
stunatra says:
I laugh that people think Obama’s been anti-War. He has been an Afghanistan hawk since the beginning of the campaign. Where has everyone been?
Jeff says:
“See I stand by Bush’s mistakes because he was a great example of a president who took defense of the nation and troop morale first.”
The flaw in your thinking is that not only did he make a mistake, he tried to cover it up by lying and manipulating the public, and then made even more mistakes because god forbid our soldiers die in vain from the original mistake. So you still stand by that?
OHHH says:
Bush gave the information that he and his democratic administration were given – intelligence was and always will be his Achilles heel despite Liberal attempts to make it otherwise. You show me where Bush lied and manipulated the public when the intelligence of the day didn’t support what he said. More importantly, he was extremely transparent which is the reason Libs had a field day, cause everything was more than accessible to their grubby agenda based fingers.
Whether I personally agree or not is inconsequential, the government overwhelmingly approved because of intelligence and circumstance — and due to much of that the intelligence agencies have reconciled and reformed much of what was causing breakdowns.
I’ll proudly stand by Bush and his mistakes well before I’ll even call Obama and his buffon administration my government. These jokers are an insult to America, and time will prove this beyond any doubt, regardless of how obvious it is to anyone who thinks for themselves right now.
allen says:
this is why i voted for Ron Paul
cft says:
@PhP:
Fantastic piece.
@OHHH:
…buffon administration. …
Time to take another Bufferin.